tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post3868829591288553953..comments2023-10-17T17:03:54.473+01:00Comments on Rinaldi's Blog: Grim readingginkershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16346019297504649488noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-67073564441575366382007-11-15T20:33:00.000+00:002007-11-15T20:33:00.000+00:00SP, you know the situation better than me. But loo...SP, you know the situation better than me. But looking at all the incidents, over so many years, it just seems every time an ultra gets their nose bent out of shape all they have to do is kick up a stink and they basically get what they want.<BR/><BR/>That Roman derby that was called off because ultras falsely believed or made up that a fan had been killed was a disgrace and shows that most them patcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562844048305070041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-45849518782544845722007-11-15T15:12:00.000+00:002007-11-15T15:12:00.000+00:00These situations are always hard to handle. The wo...These situations are always hard to handle. The worst ever was Heysel which should never have been played.<BR/><BR/>Sunday was another bungled piece of judgment. Now I'm not sure it would serve any purpose to stop the games on, say, November 25. It might seem a bit of a token effort anyway having failed to do so at the weekend.ginkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16346019297504649488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-36447310034620990952007-11-15T11:51:00.000+00:002007-11-15T11:51:00.000+00:00Patcook, I'm never going to agree with you there. ...Patcook, I'm never going to agree with you there. I think it was insulting and insensitive. <BR/><BR/>The information we now have makes the death look very unrelated to sport. But what the Italian media were putting out between, say, mid-day and 3pm on Sunday, made it seem very clear that the death was football related. If anything, I would say that the style in which the tragedy was immediately Spangly Princesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00298207390810348915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-28887692791684707662007-11-14T20:25:00.000+00:002007-11-14T20:25:00.000+00:00i think abandoning all the games would have been l...i think abandoning all the games would have been like paying a ransom to kidnappers and Calcio has paid too often.<BR/><BR/>I think it was right to abandon games with safety concerns but it was encouraging to see calcio get on with the show.patcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562844048305070041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-50714313913509790312007-11-14T16:07:00.000+00:002007-11-14T16:07:00.000+00:00PatThe coverage has been very mixed with some goin...Pat<BR/><BR/>The coverage has been very mixed with some going into decent detail and others being totally superficial.<BR/><BR/>Spangly<BR/><BR/>I noticed that there did seem to be a more organised effort in Rome which is depressing. I agree that it is inappropriate to play after a sport-related death but I am unclear as to how obvious it was that this was connected to football when the games ginkershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16346019297504649488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-68910521561536681322007-11-14T14:52:00.000+00:002007-11-14T14:52:00.000+00:00A sorry state of affairs, whichever way you look a...A sorry state of affairs, whichever way you look at it... not least from the question, How does a warning shot kill a man in a car? Like Spangly says, probably incompetence and carelessness.* (asterisk)https://www.blogger.com/profile/11969314216753450118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-66696860967653143352007-11-14T09:22:00.000+00:002007-11-14T09:22:00.000+00:00I agree with what you've said here, apart from it ...I agree with what you've said here, apart from it does now seem that there was a degree of organisation & direction to the rioting here in Rome - coming from extreme right militants. Showing ever more clearly that this is a social & political problem first and foremost.<BR/><BR/>It should indeed be distinguished from the death of Raciti: that was the (probably) accidental result of malice Spangly Princesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00298207390810348915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24976150.post-18218075995148464402007-11-12T21:29:00.000+00:002007-11-12T21:29:00.000+00:00the low standard of media coverage is disgraceful....the low standard of media coverage is disgraceful. <BR/>Many media outlets in Australia tried to portray the events as possible revenge acts by the police a Raciti's death last season.<BR/>I think Italy can fix these issues, like England has reduced the hooliganism in its country. <BR/>We all just have to pray for a competent Italian government...patcookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10562844048305070041noreply@blogger.com